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Hi everybody,
I'm currently DD / ocasional track my 2019 Audi RS3 . I'm considering getting a VN as a fun light weekend/track (road course) car.
I'm an advance group driver that usually drive at 8/10 at the track as was wondering what are the must upgrades I need to do before taking the VN to the track and not feeling disappointed?
Besides the obvious upgrades of pads , brake fluid and tires what else is needed?

As a reference- The Audi really needed pads , brake fluid, tires, better cooling rotors , larger intercooler ( with stock the car was pulling timing after 3 laps) , rear sway bar upgrade to reduce horrible understeer.

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I've tracked the N several times and can say the stock brake pads are phenomenal. Have done 20 minute sessions all out with zero brake fade. The car stock is an amazing car for track but there is always room for improvement. The biggest thing I can say is ditch the anchor of wheels that we have and ditch those stock tires, they aren't all that great. Get yourself some lightweight 18s with some sticky tires. Next get some camber bolts for the front and get yourself a proper alignment and add camber to the front (I run -1.9 F -1.7 R). Next I would get a FMIC, not sure where you are located but here in Florida, in the heat, you can really feel the N heatsoaking bad about halfway through the session, it falls flat on its face trying to power through the straights. I'm also waiting for someone to make an oil cooler for this car. It has yet to go into limp mode for me but the oil temps do get pretty high up there which is concerning. I most likely going to end up fabricating my own and seeing how that goes.
 

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Stock, you can just send it. But to really wake the car up:

  • Better tires, smaller wheels
  • Larger rear bar and end links
  • Caster bushings
  • Camber bolts
  • FMIC or water/meth

Oil temps will sit around 250-260 on track (I'm in Texas), which is within tolerance of the oil used in this car. Just run a heavier weight for track use, I'm currently using 5w-40 in the summer and 5w-30 in the winter.
 

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Bone stock it's good to go. The OEM pads and fluid will hold up just fine. The stock pads compared to more aggressive track pads don't have much initial bite but they are easily modulated even at temperature. If this isn't your first rodeo at the track you'll find the OEM tires a bit disappointing compared to the rest of the car but they will let you learn how the car acts/reacts.
I'm still on the OEM rubber and after the 4th track day i noticed my driver side front is starting to chunk and I can guarantee that its not due to over inflation or temperatures.
Hankook! if your listening please produce the RS4's in a 91 load rating!
 

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I've tracked the N several times and can say the stock brake pads are phenomenal. Have done 20 minute sessions all out with zero brake fade. The car stock is an amazing car for track but there is always room for improvement. The biggest thing I can say is ditch the anchor of wheels that we have and ditch those stock tires, they aren't all that great. Get yourself some lightweight 18s with some sticky tires. Next get some camber bolts for the front and get yourself a proper alignment and add camber to the front (I run -1.9 F -1.7 R). Next I would get a FMIC, not sure where you are located but here in Florida, in the heat, you can really feel the N heatsoaking bad about halfway through the session, it falls flat on its face trying to power through the straights. I'm also waiting for someone to make an oil cooler for this car. It has yet to go into limp mode for me but the oil temps do get pretty high up there which is concerning. I most likely going to end up fabricating my own and seeing how that goes.
What did you go with for 18” track wheels and tires? I’ve had my N to the track twice now and am very impressed with how the stock brakes, suspension, and cooling held up, but agree that the stock tires are the weak link. I like the idea of dropping some weight with 18” wheels plus it looks like there are some more affordable track tire options in something like a 245/40/18.
Also, did you do two sets of camber bolts to get to -1.9F? I only got -1.5 with one set.
 

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What did you go with for 18” track wheels and tires? I’ve had my N to the track twice now and am very impressed with how the stock brakes, suspension, and cooling held up, but agree that the stock tires are the weak link. I like the idea of dropping some weight with 18” wheels plus it looks like there are some more affordable track tire options in something like a 245/40/18.
Also, did you do two sets of camber bolts to get to -1.9F? I only got -1.5 with one set.
You have camber bolts and are only getting -1.5? I just recently went more aggressive with the camber and hit -2.4 up front and -2.2 in the rear.

I'm using Enkei TS10 18x8 et50 with Falken RT615 245/40s.
 

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You have camber bolts and are only getting -1.5? I just recently went more aggressive with the camber and hit -2.4 up front and -2.2 in the rear.

I'm using Enkei TS10 18x8 et50 with Falken RT615 245/40s.
-2.4? Did that take two sets of camber bolts? Otherwise I’ll have to try another shop, the guy I took it to said -1.5 was the most he could get. It’s better than stock but still quite hard on the outside shoulders of the tires on the track.
I’ll probably burn through the stock tires for the rest of this track season (only about two more months here in Michigan and I’ll probably only hit 2-3 more days) and then I’m thinking of going with 245/18s for next year.
 

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-2.4? Did that take two sets of camber bolts? Otherwise I’ll have to try another shop, the guy I took it to said -1.5 was the most he could get. It’s better than stock but still quite hard on the outside shoulders of the tires on the track.
I’ll probably burn through the stock tires for the rest of this track season (only about two more months here in Michigan and I’ll probably only hit 2-3 more days) and then I’m thinking of going with 245/18s for next year.
Nope, just running the spc camber bolts, I was surprised we were able to get that far.

 

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What did you go with for 18” track wheels and tires? I’ve had my N to the track twice now and am very impressed with how the stock brakes, suspension, and cooling held up, but agree that the stock tires are the weak link. I like the idea of dropping some weight with 18” wheels plus it looks like there are some more affordable track tire options in something like a 245/40/18.
Also, did you do two sets of camber bolts to get to -1.9F? I only got -1.5 with one set.
I have Konig Milligrams 18x8.5 with 245/40/r18. I only have 1 set of camber bolts to achieve that camber as they are maxed out you can go with 1 set.
 

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Did my first track day this year, about 10C out. 2022 Veloster N DCT. About 1500km break in, then oil change, brake fluid change.

Overall, car did pretty decent. Before I went to the track I did the following to the car:

  • oil change, brake fluid change
  • TTR upper and lower mounts
  • Konig Dekagram 18x8.5" with Yokohama V601 245/40 tires

Oil temps definitely really get up there after only 2-3 laps. Probably about 125C (260F) easily. And it wasn't even hot out. One of the first cooling mods I'll be doing is an oil cooler as soon as one exists for a DCT. (If someone is making one and wants pre-order money let me know if you'll have something ready to test or go by spring 2022. Otherwise I'll have to mock something up with my existing oil cooler...)

I've heard lots of good things about the stock brake pads. Maybe I'm just too used to the GLOC R12/R8 combo on my old car. They were OK, and never faded so badly that I felt unsafe, but after a good 3 or 4 hot laps you could feel them starting to fall off. Was also my first time out in the car and still getting a feel for the car along with bedding the pads etc, but I think I'll swap for a dedicated rotor/pad set up for next year, swapping them before heading to the track. I feel like it'll provide a bit more confidence.

This winter plan is to:

  • install speedbleeders
  • install SS brake lines
  • keep an eye out for DCT cooling parts such as oil cooler and intercooler
  • get dedicated rotors/pads for track days

With all that being said, what do folks like for a track pad? Just looking for something that can deal with the heat and aggression of a track day a bit better than the stock pads (plus saving the stock for street driving). I'm thinking a mid/high level Stoptech or Hawk pad is probably enough? Are there a set of Centric blanks or something like that folks use? I considered a Gyrodisc setup but for the pricing it seems a bit overkill. I'll probably only do 5 or 6 HPDE a year.

On track, the DCT felt great, and I was really happy with how well the car rotated even with a fully stock set up. I checked temps on the tires with my pyrometer and temps were pretty good across the tire, and I didn't have any tire roll over. I expect as I start to push the car more (I was driving probably no more than 60%) I'll end up looking to add a little bit more camber, but we'll see. Having that -1.7* up front stock on the DCT is pretty nice.
 
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