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Installed the turbo tech racing upper motor mount on my car and my god it’s amazing! I already had the boomba rear motor Mount and the upper motor mount just made the car much better! And after installing the upper mount I got less vibrations compared to when I just had the rear motor mount and I used to get a shake on my shifter 3rd gear when letting off the gas and that’s gone!10/10 would recommend you guys to consider upgrading the motor mounts. One of the best things I’ve done to the car!

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Installed the turbo tech racing upper motor mount on my car and my god it’s amazing! I already had the boomba rear motor Mount and the upper motor mount just made the car much better! And after installing the upper mount I got less vibrations compared to when I just had the rear motor mount and I used to get a shake on my shifter 3rd gear when letting off the gas and that’s gone!10/10 would recommend you guys to consider upgrading the motor mounts. One of the best things I’ve done to the car!

Once again bro great video. Quick question for you: I have the Boomba Short Shifter plate as well as all the bushings from them. I also have the Boomba RMM. The vibration and gear knob movement in 3rd under hard acceleration and engine braking is annoying as ****. Did the TTR upper motor mount completely kill that vibration? If it's completely gone I am heavily considering picking up the TTR upper motor mount.
 

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Once again bro great video. Quick question for you: I have the Boomba Short Shifter plate as well as all the bushings from them. I also have the Boomba RMM. The vibration and gear knob movement in 3rd under hard acceleration and engine braking is annoying as ****. Did the TTR upper motor mount completely kill that vibration? If it's completely gone I am heavily considering picking up the TTR upper motor mount.
Thanks! :) For me it’s not completely gone but it definitely reduces it by a lot it still shakes a tiny bit not as much as it did with just the boomba RMM and bushings, it definitely lessened it and I don’t notice it as much as I did before
 

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That’s awesome! This is the first car I’ve owned that I give a damn about – I want to start modding it but I’m worried about ruining the warranty (just got my N 2 weeks ago). Do these motor mounts affect my warranty?
 

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That’s awesome! This is the first car I’ve owned that I give a damn about – I want to start modding it but I’m worried about ruining the warranty (just got my N 2 weeks ago). Do these motor mounts affect my warranty?
In order for them to deny your warranty they have to prove that the mod caused the problem you’re trying to warranty. I’ve owned a Subaru sti before and I know a lot of people would get Cobb accessports get the little tune off of the Cobb accessport and they would take them to dealerships and some would still get covered for engine repairs even when the clearly modified the ECU. The motor mounts are not likely to mess up any internals for Hyundai to deny you power train warranty so I don’t think it’ll effect your power train warranty but don’t quote me on that. I know there’s also an article from Hyundai stating what mods do void it and what mods don’t I’ll try and find it and post it here for you
 

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Bro! This is great info, thank you. The fact that Hyundai doesn't make you take off oil catch cans, intercoolers, and CAI is really welcome news to me. I've been running a catch can since I got it and left it on when I went for the ECU update regarding the knock sensor. They didn't ask any questions though. All the techs just gathered around me and asked me what's the fastest I've gotten her up to on the freeway (eyeroll) haha.

Installed the turbo tech racing upper motor mount on my car and my god it’s amazing! I already had the boomba rear motor Mount and the upper motor mount just made the car much better! And after installing the upper mount I got less vibrations compared to when I just had the rear motor mount and I used to get a shake on my shifter 3rd gear when letting off the gas and that’s gone!10/10 would recommend you guys to consider upgrading the motor mounts. One of the best things I’ve done to the car!

Thanks for the feedback man. I actually just ordered the TTR upper mount thanks to you and the rest of the guys. I got it in yellow!! :devilish: I am really hoping the TTR upper mount will kill my gear knob shaking/movement. I really like the Boomba short shifter setup but I cannot deal with how much the gear knob vibrates/moves while in 3rd gear. It is very unsettling. It's so strange because I got the shaking before installing shifter bushings or the RMM. It appears that engine movement is the issue and the shifter cable length actually can't appropriately accommodate the geometry change of the short shifter plate. Sadly, I might have to go with Forge if I can't resolve the issue.
 

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In order for them to deny your warranty they have to prove that the mod caused the problem you’re trying to warranty. I’ve owned a Subaru sti before and I know a lot of people would get Cobb accessports get the little tune off of the Cobb accessport and they would take them to dealerships and some would still get covered for engine repairs even when the clearly modified the ECU. The motor mounts are not likely to mess up any internals for Hyundai to deny you power train warranty so I don’t think it’ll effect your power train warranty but don’t quote me on that. I know there’s also an article from Hyundai stating what mods do void it and what mods don’t I’ll try and find it and post it here for you
This is accurate. They have to legally be able to prove that the part you installed that was not OEM caused failure. The only way that motor mounts are going to cause powertrain issues is if they fail completely (which should absolutely NOT be the case). I would say after installing an RMM and an Upper Motor Mount just keep an eye on the transaxle OEM rubber mount incase for some reason it wears faster than the other mounts. However, even if it were to fail it shouldn't fail catastrophically. The rubber should wear out causing excess vibration on the vehicle. Then you simply have to replace the mount. I wouldn't worry too much about motor mounts as long as they are installed correctly and are from a reputable dependable company. :) @teeveetee
 

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In theory, replacing the top passenger mm and the lower mm should make for less movement so the driver side mount may last longer since it may have less work to do.
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In theory, replacing the top passenger mm and the lower mm should make for less movement so the driver side mount may last longer since it may have less work to do.
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That is one school of thought and one that I also subscribe too. The OEM Transaxle Motor Mount (Driver Side) should experience less magnitude of deflection due to the drivetrain not jerking (back/forth) or twisting. The counter-argument is that stiffening the Upper Motor Mount (Passenger Side) and the RMM will change the amount of vibration that the OEM Transaxle Motor Mount (Driver Side) experiences even when the vehicle is idling. The motor still vibrates and naturally, 4 bangers are not balanced motors. The vibration has to travel somewhere. While the Upper Motor Mount and the RMM will absorb some vibration they will not dampen as well as the OEM rubber on those mounts. Changing the OEM mounts changes how they all will experience vibration. Some are of the belief that this excess vibration on the OEM mount could cause premature wear.
 

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I would agree to this. When you put the upper motor mount on you will see that the motor hardly moves anymore. It is extremely solid. I see less vibration with the mm on, way less. Even at idle. I also have the purple powerflex lower mm bushings. I couldn't deal with the Boomba one!!!! Even after break in it still vibrated like a banshee at like 1200 rpms. It was gone soon thereafter... I came to the conclusion I am too old to sacrifice too much comfort so I sold that piece. One reason I didn't put the Boomba short shifter on after reading how it vibrates. I said "screw that" because I wanted some comfort too. I see no reason we can't have both. As for my shifter I may put the Boomba bushings on and a weighted shift knob. Or just a weighted shift knob, not sure yet, but that's it. I am not messing with any short shifter stuff.

Also, I have the Afe down pipe on the way. The only other thing I want after that is an inter cooler. Forge is going to make one specifically for the VN with hardly any modification. I believe the only modification is having to cut the brace that holds the inter cooler temp gauge on and re-install it on their own bracket. No biggie to me. It's in development now. Maybe a strut tower brace and Whiteline poly bushings with some lateral locks for the front stock sway bar. Then I am DONE! lol.... I already did a bunch of suspension mods that still keep the comfort until you put it in full red N mode. Then it really becomes a race car.... Extremely stiff but awesome for autocross. Whiteline 24mm rear sway (set on softest setting), pierce 4 pt brace, uniq suspension collars, pierce trunk brace. If I want comfort and performance I put it in purple N mode to which I have specific settings. Honestly, it's full bore except for the steering and suspension. Those are set to normal. I also have the Afe Scorcher piggyback that gives me 3 more settings on the ecu in addition to the ones Hyundai gives you though the steering wheel. So I have 8 different settings to give me any ride or power I want to have. I absolutely love it!!! Best 357 dollars I ever spent on this car so far. Very easy install to, especially for you.... Great talking to you Avay.

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Got mine in yesterday. Finished putting it on today. The finish is very nice. Install was MUCH easier than expected. Everything went flawlessly. No more shudder at 1200 rpm with only the Boomba mount on. Have to wait for everything to settle including the Boomba mount to see how comfortable it is. But finally, practically all shaking is gone from the gear knob with the Boomba short shifter. It is much more comfortable with the TTR upper mount and a solid RMM mount. Still have to do a lot more driving but otherwise highly recommended. Bravo.

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Ya, the install is very easy. I was surprised.... lol.... Wow, that yellow mount really stands out. :) Nice work, Avay.

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Here you go...


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I would agree to this. When you put the upper motor mount on you will see that the motor hardly moves anymore. It is extremely solid. I see less vibration with the mm on, way less. Even at idle. I also have the purple powerflex lower mm bushings. I couldn't deal with the Boomba one!!!! Even after break in it still vibrated like a banshee at like 1200 rpms. It was gone soon thereafter... I came to the conclusion I am too old to sacrifice too much comfort so I sold that piece. One reason I didn't put the Boomba short shifter on after reading how it vibrates. I said "screw that" because I wanted some comfort too. I see no reason we can't have both. As for my shifter I may put the Boomba bushings on and a weighted shift knob. Or just a weighted shift knob, not sure yet, but that's it. I am not messing with any short shifter stuff.

Also, I have the Afe down pipe on the way. The only other thing I want after that is an inter cooler. Forge is going to make one specifically for the VN with hardly any modification. I believe the only modification is having to cut the brace that holds the inter cooler temp gauge on and re-install it on their own bracket. No biggie to me. It's in development now. Maybe a strut tower brace and Whiteline poly bushings with some lateral locks for the front stock sway bar. Then I am DONE! lol.... I already did a bunch of suspension mods that still keep the comfort until you put it in full red N mode. Then it really becomes a race car.... Extremely stiff but awesome for autocross. Whiteline 24mm rear sway (set on softest setting), pierce 4 pt brace, uniq suspension collars, pierce trunk brace. If I want comfort and performance I put it in purple N mode to which I have specific settings. Honestly, it's full bore except for the steering and suspension. Those are set to normal. I also have the Afe Scorcher piggyback that gives me 3 more settings on the ecu in addition to the ones Hyundai gives you though the steering wheel. So I have 8 different settings to give me any ride or power I want to have. I absolutely love it!!! Best 357 dollars I ever spent on this car so far. Very easy install to, especially for you.... Great talking to you Avay.

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Nice man! I was looking at some suspension mods on SoCal GarageWorks website as well. Would you say that stiffening the suspension is worth doing the jobs? Also, everyone is looking for a nice weighted gear knob. I am actually quite surprised a company hasn't developed one yet.

Haha you are correct with just the Boomba RMM the car vibrates a lot at idle and especially at 1200 rpm or when you are creeping with the clutch. And yes the Boomba Short Shifter shaking in 3rd was driving me crazyyyy.

Ya, the install is very easy. I was surprised.... lol.... Wow, that yellow mount really stands out. :) Nice work, Avay.

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Thanks man! I was really surprised as well. I was sure it was going to be harder than advertised to get the old OEM mount off but after loosening everything it just came right off with zero effort at all. The car feels really good now. Even with the Boomba mount, the vibration overall is considerably decreased. No more shaking a ton at idle or creeping or at 1200 rpm! Instead of the gear knob shaking like crazy when accelerating hard or decelerating the whole car vibrates now slightly (I can feel it in the steering wheel). It is hardly noticeable unless you are really looking for it. This could also be a result of my Boomba RMM or the TTR Upper Mount not being settled yet.

I am almost done my mods for this summer. COVID-19 left me with a ton of time to work on my car. I did the Boomba RMM, got my windows tinted, have a blue/yellow Velossa Tech Big mouth in the mail and also some Enkei Raijins in the mail as well (19x8 et40). After that, I am done for this summer :) !! In 2021 I will do intake, turbo inlet, and intercooler. Still don't know when I'll tune her yet!!
 

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Nice work. Any install tips, or does the above video pretty much cover it?
The above video pretty much covers everything. The instructions that are sent with the mount are also very informative and simple to understand (a lot of companies need to take note). The instructions say to utilize a board to hold the engine up. However, one of the pictures in the instructions show them using a composition book haha. I didn't' have a small wood board laying around so I just used some old paperback books and it worked great.
 
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