[azycray]

Well i had my first oil change yesterday it was free at the dealer ship so... they use pennzoil platinum euro lx 0w 30 i have been trying to find this oil but it is not sold in very many places . advance was the first i found they get 15.99 per quart i finally found my prefered brand of mobil 1 at a reasonable 25.94 at walmart i have to ask the dealership if i can use it the dealership wants 12.99 a quart so the oil change will cost about 90 to 100 at the dealership which is a bit much but we have a special car don't we . SHEEISH

 

[Frank83]

Anyone know what the oil filter brand/type we use for our N? Thanks.

 

[Rob...E]

The owners manual recommends Quaker State products.
I got a deal on lifetime full synthetic oil changes at my dealer for $400 cad.

 

[toogqforyou]

mobil 1 caused many problems in the 1st gen VT

 

[wasjrx51]

I had a 2016 VT DCT and used Mobile 1 exclusively after the first 1500 miles without any problems. I only have about 800 miles on the N, so I have not yet changed the oil, but I will use Mobil 1.

 

[conevadr]

Just did my first oil change. Went with Castrol 5w40 - wanted a little extra weight for summer autox season. Don't care about mpg. Will go back to 0w30 for the winter. Using Hyundai filters.

 

[Frank83]

Does anyone know if the oil filters we use for our N is this --> Hyundai part # 26300-35504? or another alternative is the K&N HP-1004.

 

[toogqforyou]

I had a 2016 VT DCT and used Mobile 1 exclusively after the first 1500 miles without any problems. I only have about 800 miles on the N, so I have not yet changed the oil, but I will use Mobil 1.

I believe I will post all the instances of BLOWN ENGINES UTILIZING MOBIL 1

INSTEAD utilize Pennzoil ULTRA Platinum, NOT Pennzoil Platinum, but ULTRA!

 

[Moose]

Just a heads up on Mobile 1, it was responsible for alot of unwanted overhead noise and valvetrain chatter in 2.0t Gencow motors, not the same motor obviously but food for thought. Especially from the couple of folks in gencows pulling oil samples and getting lab anaylsis showed that it is one of the worst oils for high heat related breakdown (what a turbo does to oil) over time.

Also, in case anyone is wondering or reading this, Royal Purple should be avoided in hyundai motors in general. There were a few documented cases of engine failure from it in the gencow community over the years.. It is NOT a bad oil, ill say that upfront before anyone gets their feels ruffled, the problem was actually that the oil reacted badly to the metallurgical makeup of the metals used in hyundai motors, causing alot of ring failure, and scoring of cylinder walls.

The go to oil for pretty much all turbo motors, hyundais and otherwise in the aftermarket scene and of course the gencow community has been predominantly Shell Rotella T6 5w40(or0w40) and amsoils top synthetic oil coming up at a close second.

As for oil filters, hyundai actually makes filters. like alot of them, for applications ranging from hydraulic systems in factory lines to the oil filters for ginormous ocean going supertanker motors. Filter making is a thing they've been involved in for a long time and their oem filters are actually in most cases better than all other brand/aftermarket offerings. At least in the genesis world, both the sedan and coupe cutting apart the oem filters and k&n filters that one fellow did showed a massive difference in quality where the oem hyundai one had alot better filter material and setup for filtration inside.

And as a final food for thought, the gencow 2.0t has a tsb to only use oem oil filters as some aftermarket ones had clogged early, resulting in catastrophic oil pressure loss and engine failure on some vehicles. It was pretty commonly known that to have a engine failure warranty claim approved they had best have seen an oem oil filter on the car or it more than likely wasnt happening due to this issue. (obviously this is not yet the case with the VN and is unknown if its even still an issue)

 

[Frank83]

So with the VN, is it safe to say to just go with the Hyundai's recommended engine oil which is the Quaker State 0W-30 stated on our manual??

 

[Rob...E]

Quaker State for me.

So with the VN, is it safe to say to just go with the Hyundai's recommended engine oil which is the Quaker State 0W-30 stated on our manual??

That's the way I'll be going. I figure they built it ,they should know what's good for it.

 

[Moose]

Yeah. Shell owns penzoil-quaker state. The factory recommended oil is actually very similar to rotella t6 and a very good oil. Wether or not you trust dealer whelps to touch your car is another matter though lol.

 

[get_schwifty]

Are there any UOAs for oils ran with this engine yet? (whether it be in the N or in any other Kia/Hyundai that may use the same engine?)

I had excellent experiences with 5w30 Motul 8100 X-Clean EFE on my WRX STI, which is notorious for thrashing oil and really needed something that resisted shearing to a 20 weight, and the X-Clean really excels at staying in-grade. For that matter, the UOAs I've seen for both X-Clean and X-Cess seem to be, as a general rule, consistently positive provided the user recognizes they are not appropriate for extremely long OCIs. And I do still have several jugs of it...

 

[toogqforyou]

Ester or PAO-based (true full synthetic) - Red Line, AMSOIL Signature Series, ENEOS, MOTUL 300V, Pennzoil ULTRA Platinum, CERMA.

I have never gone with what the stealership recommends, other than the oem filter which should be made by mobis (Hyundai/Kia)

I would also keep OCI's at 3k maximum.

 

[get_schwifty]

Now that I've finished break-in, I am pretty surprised by just how much oil temps rise when under heavy load. I am guessing shear stability is going to be a important with oil selection and it's starting to sound like using an oil with a HTHs of 3.5+ is a pretty good idearp.

Is there any way we can log the oil temps on this car into some sort of data file? Motul is interested in some test samples, UOAs, and oil temp data to learn more about this engine.

 

[get_schwifty]

I assume our cars do not have any sort of gasoline particulate filter? (don't see anything in the manual or under the car to suggest it does, and I can't imaging this car sounding so good if it did.)

 

[TNcoupe]

Just wait until you do a track day or an autocross in the summer if you want to see a high oil temp. I assume it will probably be like my Focus ST and see 230deg oil temps pretty quickly. If possible you should probably try to run Pennzoil Ultra Platinum oil, its helps with the low speed pre ignition on the direct injection gas engines.

 

[wasjrx51]

Again, I have used Mobil1 for over 35 years without a single problem. My Porsche, BMW (even the X5 diesel), and Mercedes all specified Mobil1 as well. I was using Mobil 1 FS 5W-50 in my 2016 VT and never had a problem or any engine/valve train noise at all. Are you using genuine Mobil1? Are you using the recommended type? If it is SN rated, there is no better oil in my opinion.

 

[toogqforyou]

Again, I have used Mobil1 for over 35 years without a single problem. My Porsche, BMW (even the X5 diesel), and Mercedes all specified Mobil1 as well. I was using Mobil 1 FS 5W-50 in my 2016 VT and never had a problem or any engine/valve train noise at all. Are you using genuine Mobil1? Are you using the recommended type? If it is SN rated, there is no better oil in my opinion.

I'm not knocking Mobil 1, I'm warning people to NOT utilize on this platform as there is a 112 page thread on velosterturbo.org specifically on BLOWN ENGINES. More than half of the blown engines were due to multiple factors, but the main factor was Mobil 1 utilized from the dealer. They should have used a PAO-based (Group IV) or ester-based (Group V) synthetic oil with exceptions to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum that is a Group III (natural gas) based oil. Other factors were 5k mile OCI's when they should have been 3k miles due to fuel dilution from piston ring blowby which is a significant contributor to LSPI events. Not utilizing the highest octane fuel rating available even though 87 is "ok".

These aren't your Porsche's, beamers or benzo's bro. Trust me I use Mobil 1 in my Mini JCW with 117k miles on it, no issues.


https://www.velosterturbo.org/forum/veloster-turbo-discussions/6754-blown-engines.html

 

[TNcoupe]

I'm not knocking Mobil 1, I'm warning people to NOT utilize on this platform as there is a 112 page thread on velosterturbo.org specifically on BLOWN ENGINES. More than half of the blown engines were due to multiple factors, but the main factor was Mobil 1 utilized from the dealer. They should have used a PAO-based (Group IV) or ester-based (Group V) synthetic oil with exceptions to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum that is a Group III (natural gas) based oil. Other factors were 5k mile OCI's when they should have been 3k miles due to fuel dilution from piston ring blowby which is a significant contributor to LSPI events. Not utilizing the highest octane fuel rating available even though 87 is "ok".

These aren't your Porsche's, beamers or benzo's bro. Trust me I use Mobil 1 in my Mini JCW with 117k miles on it, no issues.


https://www.velosterturbo.org/forum/veloster-turbo-discussions/6754-blown-engines.html

I used Mobil 1 in my Focus ST and switched to Pennzoil Ultra about 20,000mi ago. Picked up about 1mpg. This will be my first oil change with it on the stock tune. Interested to see how much is in my oil catch can on the stock tune vs what it was stage 2 tuned.