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I'm in the same boat as you. The way I read it, it looks like we have a lifetime warranty on our engines. But at time I'm concerned. Well if the engine catches fire then I'm sure whatever else it damages Hyundai will replace and fix. I'm thinking new car in that situation. Ha. But being serious, it is a little cause for concern I suppose.What type of problems were there with this engine to warrant this? Makes me cautious now...
Br,
-Mike
Not to worry, it does absolutely no good to worry about something you can't or aren't in control of to begin with.What type of problems were there with this engine to warrant this? Makes me cautious now...
Br,
-Mike
Excellent to hear! Now I say; "Mod On Boys!"Not to worry, it does absolutely no good to worry about something you can't or aren't in control of to begin with.
Knock sensor are common on all engines and model cautos now-a-days and have been since the existence and use of ECU's
A Hyundai engineer testified before the NHTSA in late 2017 and provided detailed testimony with regards to the milling issues during production of the engine blocks, which left metal shaving on key areas of the crankshaft journals and other locations. The shaving broke off, causing damage to main bearing, oil pumps and other engine parts. The dreaded; Hyundai Sonata tick. No, not to be confused with the the high pressure fuel pump tick but the engine tick coming from main bearing and crankshaft.
It's good to see Hyundai stepping up and offering the warranted engine. However, according to the testimony of the engineer to the NHTSA, the majority or all the issues were corrected before the 2018/19 Theta II engines were produced.
So this is an added bonus for 2019 Theta II owners.
Assuming this is legit is there some clause that states the track day warranty is not included in the lifetime?
Assuming this is legit is there some clause that states the track day warranty is not included in the lifetime?
Not to worry, it does absolutely no good to worry about something you can't or aren't in control of to begin with.What type of problems were there with this engine to warrant this? Makes me cautious now...
Br,
-Mike
Knock sensor are common on all engines and model cautos now-a-days and have been since the existence and use of ECU's
A Hyundai engineer testified before the NHTSA in late 2017 and provided detailed testimony with regards to the milling issues during production of the engine blocks, which left metal shaving on key areas of the crankshaft journals and other locations. The shaving broke off, causing damage to main bearing, oil pumps and other engine parts. The dreaded; Hyundai Sonata tick. No, not to be confused with the the high pressure fuel pump tick but the engine tick coming from main bearing and crankshaft.
It's good to see Hyundai stepping up and offering the warranted engine. However, according to the testimony of the engineer to the NHTSA, the majority or all the issues were corrected before the 2018/19 Theta II engines were produced.
So this is an added bonus for 2019 Theta II owners.
Lifetime track day warranty sounds excellent.Why would it not be legit??? Its a Hyundai/Kia press release.
Assuming this is legit is there some clause that states the track day warranty is not included in the lifetime?
It's legitimate and the track warranty extends thru the OEM warranty period. If you have any personal doubts, I might suggest you contact Hyundai Assurance by email.Assuming this is legit is there some clause that states the track day warranty is not included in the lifetime?
There are not many times in life where you get to have your cake and eat it too. This as I see it, adds the icing and allmode as well. It's a win, win situation for the original owner and the next, if you decide to sell it after the warranty expires and it doesn't go boom!IMO that Hyundai/Kia is offering varying consolations to include lifetime warranty all the variations of the Theta II just to be safe. So we may never see a problem but benefit from the additional warranty.
"Theta II gasoline direct injection (GDI) engines, which were sold in naturally aspirated 2.0-liter and 2.4-liter displacements, and had a turbocharged derivative."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.au...760-million-settlement-engine-fires-failures/
This is amazing news and info! Thank you for this.
Correct. I wouldn't worry about his issue at all. The failures in the previous Theta II's were from a manufacturing induced defect. It was not even the engineering that was bad. The manufacturing process was simply flawed. Furthermore, they should have conducted proper corrective and preventative actions regarding the manufacturing process. I feel confident that the same specific issue would not occur again. After years of dodging this stuff, I am very happy that Hyundai finally stepped up and attempted to make it right.It's legitimate and the track warranty extends thru the OEM warranty period. If you have any personal doubts, I might suggest you contact Hyundai Assurance by email.There are not many times in life where you get to have your cake and eat it too. This as I see it, adds the icing and allmode as well. It's a win, win situation for the original owner and the next, if you decide to sell it after the warranty expires and it doesn't go boom!
Again, this involved the entire Theta II production for the specified years. As the Hyundai engineer testified and made apparent; it involved primarily Theta II engines produced up to 2017. He stated that with 2018/19 engines the issue was corrected. Hyundai has seen fit to make them inclusive and this is just fine with me. I'm not going to; "look a gift horse in the mouth!" He can look at all my teeth, cause I'll be smiling all they way to the bank.:grin:
Hyundai Engineers set the specifications for production and regularly QC production samples. Considering it was a Hyundai Engineer who brought forth the testimony against Hyundai/Kia of his free will, with the NHTSA. The entire Hyundai engineering department was aware of the production issue and didn't make the necessary changes to tooling and robotics to solve the problems.It was not even the engineering that was bad.
I more so meant the actual engineering of the engine. The vehicle wasnt engineered to have manufacturing defects during the manufacturing process. Engineers Yes. But design engineerings, and powertrain engineers, and manufacturing engineers, and quality engineers are all different engineers not on the same teams. It wasn't a design error. It was a manufacturing error. Most people when they hear engine issues they believe that the design of the motor was faulty. Which in this instance was not the case. I am also familiar with the story. It's not like the engineers on those teams knew and necessarily did or did not want to change it. At the end of the day its going to be Hyundai corporate who makes the final decision. Because it will be a money and public relations decision.Just keep in mind, It may be legitimate for a news agency to print a specific time but it can be retracted anytime as well. So, until Hyundai/Kia amends the current limited warranty for Theta II owners in writing, it's simply tentative. It may be true, but requires written confirmation by Hyundai/Kia in the form of revised warranty specification. I sure it will be coming for with.
Hyundai Engineers set the specifications for production and regularly QC production samples. Considering it was a Hyundai Engineer who brought forth the testimony against Hyundai/Kia of his free will, with the NHTSA. The entire Hyundai engineering department was aware of the production issue and didn't make the necessary changes to tooling and robotics to solve the problems.