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Hi y'all! About to sell my ND Miata so I'm officially transitioning to KDM. This is my first Korean car and my path here has been a strange one:

'04 7th gen Toyota Celica > '03 W208 Mercedes CLK convertible > '13 FIAT Abarth 500 > '17 ND Miata

I'm probably one of the few blue Ns around So Cal (since they're all marked up like crazy) and picked her up a couple of weeks ago - definitely a looker and still falling in love with ripping around the streets especially since I surpassed the break-in period. Can't wait to meet up with other members in the area and learning more about this platform!
 

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Photos or it didn't happen!:grin: Either way, welcome!:smile:

There won't be many as Hyundai has only slated for 200 in the US.:wink::smile:

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There won't be many as Hyundai has only slated for 200 in the US.:wink::smile:
Where is this information sourced & how concrete is that? The DCT version is already being developed & tested
 

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No DCT version. i30N yes, it's being tested ow and will probably be released in late 2019. The rest is just rumor and idol speculation on the part of Internet and Car Magazines and Korean groupies. Direct quote; "Hyundai representative confirmed that the Veloster N would be launched with a manual only."

Next up to be released, will be the Kona N with the 250HP Theta 2.0T Turbo. It's been prototyped and is being tested now for a 2020 release. It will have a DCT. I hope they do it with the AWD option. DCT is not stout enough for the N Performance Package variant at this time. We owned a 2018 1.6T DCT. It worked well but was a dry clutch pack. If they do one for the N it has to be a wet clutch pack to handle the increased torque.

First off, not all Hyundai Dealers will actually be getting an allocation of the Veloster N. The standard variant is far more prevalent and only the larger conglomerate dealers are being allocated N's w/PP. 200 were allocated to North America (Canada), and there will be as many for the US. Canada doesn't get the standard variant of the N w/250 hp. They were allocated primarily for the US, to take make up the difference of the projected 200 plus or minus N's w/PP.



This is the photo shot of the suspected N with the DCT. This is nothing but a disguised 6 speed shifter. Now Hyundai has said going forward that; "all-wheel drives and automatic transmissions, knowing that those may be necessary to attract more buyers in the future. Hyundai did say, "it sees paddle-shift transmissions as a necessity going forward." I suspect the Kona N will be AWD since it will be the next variant released.

We will be trading in the 2019 Accent, keeping the Veloster N, when it's available and we already have our dealership keeping an eye peaked for us. They are one of the largest Hyundai Corporate Dealerships in the country.

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I have to disagree with a lot of the information you have is old. The Tucson N is in the works if you haven't heard. The Veloster N is NOT limited to 200 in the states lol & they stated the DCT is eminent due to keeping up with the market. Yes they launched with a manual only, but does not limit them to making more N's with a DCT in the future.


A lot of our speculations aren't even based in the US lol
 

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I have to disagree with a lot of the information you have is old. The Tucson N is in the works if you haven't heard. The Veloster N is NOT limited to 200 in the states lol & they stated the DCT is eminent due to keeping up with the market. Yes they launched with a manual only, but does not limit them to making more N's with a DCT in the future.


A lot of our speculations aren't even based in the US lol
Yup, they have also gone over the 200 unit speculation for Canada and figure more in the 500 range. Dealers here are still taking orders. I imagine come the 2020 model year in the fall the flood gates will be open.

The Tucson N is an interesting proposition with suspected 340hp and a sub 6 second 0-60. In true Hyundai and now N fashion it will likely shake up the performance SUV segment quite a bit and provide similar performance and amenities to it's German competitors at a significantly lower price point.

The stinger GT performance sedan, the G70 luxury sedan, the Veloster N hot hatch and now the upcoming Tucson N is showing that the Hyundai group is looking to attack all aspects of the European market one by one. At the end of the day it's not even just the vehicles Hyundai is producing that I am excited about, but also the response from the other manufacturers to stay competitive. For instance I can't wait to see what the Golf GTI updates will bring after all the RIP GTI reviews brought on by the i30N/Veloster N. Exciting times thanks to our KDM friends.
 

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I have to disagree with a lot of the information you have is old. The Tucson N is in the works if you haven't heard. The Veloster N is NOT limited to 200 in the states lol & they stated the DCT is eminent due to keeping up with the market. Yes they launched with a manual only, but does not limit them to making more N's with a DCT in the future.


A lot of our speculations aren't even based in the US lol
Yup, they have also gone over the 200 unit speculation for Canada and figure more in the 500 range. Dealers here are still taking orders. I imagine come the 2020 model year in the fall the flood gates will be open.

The Tucson N is an interesting proposition with suspected 340hp and a sub 6 second 0-60. In true Hyundai and now N fashion it will likely shake up the performance SUV segment quite a bit and provide similar performance and amenities to it's German competitors at a significantly lower price point.

The stinger GT performance sedan, the G70 luxury sedan, the Veloster N hot hatch and now the upcoming Tucson N is showing that the Hyundai group is looking to attack all aspects of the European market one by one. At the end of the day it's not even just the vehicles Hyundai is producing that I am excited about, but also the response from the other manufacturers to stay competitive. For instance I can't wait to see what the Golf GTI updates will bring after all the RIP GTI reviews brought on by the i30N/Veloster N. Exciting times thanks to our KDM friends.
well said!

Just confirmed added to the hot hatch bunch is the JCW GP at 300hp & limited run as well in 2020 with only 3k being sold.

https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-mini-john-cooper-works-gp-confirmed-at-300-hor-1832594336/amp
 

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Guys this is all speculation. This is also 2 year from now if at all as Hyundai hasn't confirmed anything. The i20N isn't for the US market. Neither car exists in a prototype form as of now. The Kona N is and is set to be release in 2020 ,as per Bierman and the N department. Please, show me where the DCT is imminent for the US market by reference. Or is this just personal speculation?

https://www.motor1.com/news/273391/hyundai-n-supercar-confirmed/

In his interview, Schemera also confirmed Hyundai N will rely on electrification even in its short-term future. Moreover, the performance division is currently investigating further expanding its lineup with an i20 N and a Kona N, but both haven’t been approved for production yet.
This is the 2017 GP concept. https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-mini-j...1832594336/amp . There are no other photos available for it. It will also be over well over 40K each and will look nothing like the concept. Just to put this into perspective, the new Mini John Cooper Works International Orange Edition will be near $50K w TTL

Yup, they have also gone over the 200 unit speculation for Canada and figure more in the 500 range.
https://www.auto123.com/en/news/2019-hyundai-veloster-n-presentation-north-america/65060/

"Hyundai is projecting to import 200 units of the 2019 Veloster N to Canada," and this is their officially statement." There is no printed information beyond this. There is no market sales data for the Veloster N either. For the Veloster alone, there are only 855 sold, for the month of January in the US market. Please, post your reference where Hyundai has stated they are/have imported more? I can give over a dozen references to the above officially printed statements.

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Hyundai Veloster N May Get a DCT Option - The Drive . Speculation
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2018/07/new-details-spilled-on-hyundai-veloster-n-additional-performance-variants-to-wear-n-badge/ . Speculation
https://www.motortrend.com/news/hyundai-veloster-n-might-get-a-dual-clutch-automatic/ . Speculation
https://www.motortrend.ca/en/news/hyundai-veloster-n-might-get-a-dual-clutch-automatic/ . Speculation
https://thekoreancarblog.com/2018/08/01/hyundai-veloster-n-test-mule-could-be-dct-variant/ . Speculation
https://thenewswheel.com/rumor-has-it-the-hyundai-veloster-n-might-get-a-dual-clutch-transmission-in-2019/ . Speculation

All this is rumor and speculation, nothing concrete at all. I can post more on the speculation of the Veloster N may or may not get a DCT. Nothing has been confirmed by Hyundai and all the rest is just best guess. I'm trying to stay with reality here, not subjective rumor.

If you can substantiate your claims please do. Other then that it's simply a rumor.

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A DCT is eminent due to them producing a Tucson N (which will NOT have a manual gearbox) as well as the Kona N you speak of (which will NOT have a manual gearbox either).

Here's more content for ya:

https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2018/03/hyundai-veloster-n-spotted-with-a-dual-clutch-transmission.html/amp
"But the Korean automaker has been testing all-wheel drive and automatic transmissions, knowing that those may be necessary to attract more buyers in the future. Hyundai did say it sees paddle-shift transmissions as a necessity going forward."

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/03/21/hyundai-i30-n-dual-clutch-veloster-n/ "Hyundai executives told Australian site Car Advice an eight-speed dual-clutch transmission is on the way, but that it won't join the party until late 2019. That means we could see it in the Veloster around then or a little later, and it might portend future developments for the go-fast lineup.

The in-house unit will be all-new, not a rework of the seven-speed EcoShift dual-clutch in the Veloster Turbo. It isn't clear whether the seven-speeder can handle the 279 pound-feet of torque in the top-spec N cars when on overboost. According to N Peformance boss Albert Biermann, the new eight-speed, wet-clutch, paddle-shifted gearbox has already been tested in the Kia Sorento diesel, which has 325 lb-ft of torque, and the 380-horsepower RN30 concept car. Ultimately, it will serve vehicles across Hyundai and Kia ranges.

Although late introduction of a dual-clutch has been the plan all along, a Hyundai exec admitted "sales limitations" in offering a manual exclusively. Every prime rival offers dual-clutch transmissions. But Hyundai believed that it needed to appeal to the Euro hot-hatch purists first, and we can't blame it. The long delay between launch and DCT availability does raise questions and possibilities, though.

Every N model unveiled so far sends all power to the front wheels because, according to Biermann, "Without a high amount of power there is no need to go to all-wheel drive." The introduction of the beefier eight-speed DCT that's ready to deal with at least 380 hp and 325 lb-ft could open up the way to even more powerful N versions and all-wheel drive, which has the potential to create real parity with segment rivals."

Hyundai Veloster N May Get a DCT Option - The Drive "Hyundai Australia communications boss Bill Thomas said it’s a “no-brainer to bring the standard i30 N out once the DCT is online,” according to Car Advice. The publication also wrote Hyundai CEO said there are “sales limitations” to only offering a manual in the i30 N.
Those sales limitations are likely the main reason Hyundai is talking about a DCT option for its new hot hatch. According to the L.A. Times, less than 3 percent of cars sold in the U.S. in 2016 had manual transmissions, and we can’t imagine that take rate is higher now. That number was 25 percent in 1992. For that reason, it’s easy to imagine a Hyundai Veloster N in the U.S. with an available DCT, despite being aimed at the enthusiast crowd who often prefers to do the shifting.

We reached out to Hyundai asking about the possibility of a DCT in the Veloster N and a Hyundai representative confirmed that it would be launched with a manual only. However, he also said to “stay tuned for more news this summer.” We’ll definitely stay tuned and we’ll keep you posted"

All FACTS above.

Also, I spoke with the IG author of that DCT gearbox in the Veloster N test mule in Korea. There was 7 photos that surfaced including the stated above pic with the "disguised dct in a manual gearbox) that were REMOVED. His whole page was deleted & his pics on reddit & Korean car blog were deleted as well. Hyundai is pretty serious about all of this.
 

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:wink:This is still; maybes, if's, rumors, innuendoes, imaginations, wishful thinkings and speculations. There are no facts or absolutes here. The i30N is not a Veloster, it's an Elantra 5 door in the US and not built around the same chassis or power train. They share the same engine but not transmission and all you have to do is look at the specs. However, the Kona is and does with the 1.6T Gamma engine, DCT and Frame.

Facts, are absolutes. What you have posted, are not.

Just as I posted all this earlier; Factual information this is not and will not be until Hyundai themselves comes out and says so. They have not, nor has anyone from Hyundai stated unequivocally that it will happen. This is factual, and reality at this time.:smile: Happy wishing!!

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WAIT, did you not read any of the direct quotes I posted specifically stating Hyundai executives have commented??? I don't think you are reading fully as the DCT is eminent regardless of "Veloster, i30n kona Tucson" It's clear they are going to develop a DCT to keep up with the market.

Are you telling me they are making a manual for the Kona N? lol
 

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I read everything several time over. No, they aren't making a manual for the Kona N. I didn't say that at all.

As a matter of fact, if you had read what I said, the DCT is a dry pack in the Kona. It won't work in the Kona N. It will have to be a wet clutch pack or serious redesigned. I've said this already several times. However, the Kona has a manual 6 speed transmission in Europe and Asia with the 1.0 Liter.

We just recently traded our Kona Ultimate for the Veloster N. The Kona shares nothing in common with the Veloster or the Veloster N. Nothing! The Veloster N is a manual, because of its power output and unless Hyundai decides to actually produce a highly upgraded DCT for production, it will never happen. All the Internet and Car Magazines in the world can speculate all they want. Until Hyundai media and the N division actually announces it's in production, it's nothing but speculation, nonexistent.

Instead of reacting, you might go back and read what I've commented on before. Well before any of this discussion. Please, just click on my user name and then statistics. Look at the posts with regards to the subject and discussion at hand.

What I'm telling you is; each of these vehicle models have different powertrains in OEM form. The I30N only shares the 2.0T Theta Engine with the Veloster N. The I30N is a manual as of this time. The only vehicle that shares the same chassis with the i30N, is the Kona. The Kona uses a DCT Trans but it's not strong enough to support the 2.0T theta power plant.

What you're doing is attempting to get your hopes up on something that isn't tangible at this time and based on rumors.

Ask yourself these questions; is anything that has been printed actually said, it's actually being produced from Hyundai? Is there any published media from Hyundai saying;, they have working prototypes at this time? My definitive answer to these question is; NO!

I venture to say, the reason the information was removed from the Internet and off the Korean website is; there's not a shred of factual evidence to support the claims. Medias get sued, for printing false information, it happens all the time. Best thing to do is; be patient and watch and not fall prey to every Internet rag that decides to print unfounded rumors and gossip etc.

Most of the question I've already asked, you just blew right over. So this to me, demonstrates a reactive commentary from you, then one of patient observance and comprehension.:wink: Just a suggestion; Slow down, calm down and read throughly. It will help in the discussion overall. Everything on the Internet isn't gospel (truth).

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erm...

Congrats on the car ultraviolet, enjoy it!

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me too!:grin:
 

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