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Finally got pulled over yesterday by our lovely local PD. Wasn't speeding, well, there I wasn't, but the cop told me he couldn't read my temp tag, and my exhaust was too loud and modified. HAHA. He just knew he had a ticket for my exhaust. He heard the pops when I was accelerating from a light in full N mode. And of course my car shot out like a rocket from first gear and going into 2nd the ridiculously loud pops, which is so fun to hear. Guess it was too loud for him. He said he was issuing me a sound ordinance violation. I immediately asked for a Supervisor. Forty-five minutes later I was on my way with no tickets. But had 4 cops show up to look at the car. Ha

But that leads into this...Does anybody own either a Valentine V1 or a Uniden R7 Radar Detector? Trying to decide between the 2. The valentine v1 is just proven out in the wilds, but the new kid on the block is the uniden R7, but its a lot more expensive. Any thoughts on the matter, any advice that might help me make my mind up?
 

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I own a V1 and have used one for a while, as well as a variety of Belscort products. The V1 has the biggest advantage of proven function and durability...they are reliable as **** (whereas my experience with Belscorts have been the total opposite), they work reasonably well, and the price isn't terrible. The mounting hardware is solid, and they hold up extremely well to even the worst of temperature extremes. The ability to pay to upgrade the hardware is nice...and yet, in 2019, the inability to easily update firmware on one's own isn't. However, the interface (great as it is) is from the 90s, the ability to filter signals without augmentation from one of the links to a smartphone is primitive, it's horn design isn't cutting-edge anymore, it's ability to detect Ka is no longer a pack leader, and it's off-axis detection has now been eclipsed by many other Makers. Finally, Valentine isn't really an innovator in the industry anymore and there is some question regarding what (if anything) is going to come next. If you want and like simple, you will probably like the V1...if you want more, there are some 3rd party Apps that can pair with the unit to offer things such as band segmentation and GPS false signal lockout. But the Uniden R3 performs better, and the R7 is supposed to be an improvement over that.
 

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Check your local and state ordinances. In some states, it's an automatic fine and confiscation.
In the US, I believe this is VA, DC, and US Military bases/other Federal grounds. Some detectors are designed to minimize their leakage to make it difficult-to-impossible for the radar detector detectors to detect them (such as the Spectre family), but obviously this doesnt mitigate visual identification. Not much different than before, a very skilled human operator can defeat a radar detector pretty easily with most modern radar units in many circumstances, and a marginally skilled human operator can defeat a radar detector easily with handheld LIDAR guns.

It's also worth noting that where I am at, human speed patrol is perhaps 1/10th of what it was a decade earlier, with the rise and implementation of automated speed monitoring. Higher end radar detectors still aid this through a combination of their ability to detect weak off-axis signals and utilize GPS for fixed LIDAR units, but they offer little-to-no benefit with mobile LIDAR units, which in some areas are common (in which case, select LIDAR jammers will cover this, but 'select' is the keyword and the legality of LIDAR jammers varies hugely by jurisdiction.)
 

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Check your local and state ordinances. In some states, it's an automatic fine and confiscation.
Good point.
I used to use a radar detector, Escort with the blue LED. It got to be very annoying for me. I now use WAZE, which is an app on my android phone. Its quite good for notifying you of where the police have speed traps, traffic light cameras, accidents, traffic jams, and has a darn good GPS. If you folks are not familiar, please Google WAZE. Its free. Just a thought...:eek:
 

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Finally got pulled over yesterday by our lovely local PD. Wasn't speeding, well, there I wasn't, but the cop told me he couldn't read my temp tag, and my exhaust was too loud and modified. HAHA. He just knew he had a ticket for my exhaust. He heard the pops when I was accelerating from a light in full N mode. And of course my car shot out like a rocket from first gear and going into 2nd the ridiculously loud pops, which is so fun to hear. Guess it was too loud for him. He said he was issuing me a sound ordinance violation. I immediately asked for a Supervisor. Forty-five minutes later I was on my way with no tickets. But had 4 cops show up to look at the car. Ha

But that leads into this...Does anybody own either a Valentine V1 or a Uniden R7 Radar Detector? Trying to decide between the 2. The valentine v1 is just proven out in the wilds, but the new kid on the block is the uniden R7, but its a lot more expensive. Any thoughts on the matter, any advice that might help me make my mind up?
I got rid of my V1 for the Uniden R3 with GPS. I do miss the arrows, but at the time the R7 wasn't out. The R3 has more range and superior K band filtering on blind spot monitors.

My V1 had zero and just became a noise maker. It was an older unit and not updateable without return.
 

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In the US, I believe this is VA, DC, and US Military bases/other Federal grounds. Some detectors are designed to minimize their leakage to make it difficult-to-impossible for the radar detector detectors to detect them (such as the Spectre family), but obviously this does not mitigate visual identification. Not much different than before, a very skilled human operator can defeat a radar detector pretty easily with most modern radar units in many circumstances, and a marginally skilled human operator can defeat a radar detector easily with handheld LIDAR guns.

It's also worth noting that where I am at, human speed patrol is perhaps 1/10th of what it was a decade earlier, with the rise and implementation of automated speed monitoring. Higher end radar detectors still aid this through a combination of their ability to detect weak off-axis signals and utilize GPS for fixed LIDAR units, but they offer little-to-no benefit with mobile LIDAR units, which in some areas are common (in which case, select LIDAR jammers will cover this, but 'select' is the keyword and the legality of LIDAR jammers varies hugely by jurisdiction.)
LIDAR doubtful, as it's distance can be greatly varied and most Laser Jammers and Detectors just can't reach out the distance LIDAR operates at. However, if they can't get you with LIDAR, it will be VASCAR, if not with the VASCAR, MDR etc.. If the police wants to get you for speeding, they will!

Most laser jammers are completely ineffective. A few jammers are effective, about half the time, for vehicles at ranges greater than 500 to 1000 feet. All jammers are completely ineffective at ranges less than 500 feet. Laser Jammers are useless, at the ranges LIDAR is most effective. Laser jammers are ineffective because the jamming signal must closely match the lidar pulse width and rate which varies with model. The jammer must detect the waveform and generate a match, then synchronized transmission to the next detected pulse.

Depends upon the jammer and detector utilized;

Passive jammers are useless. They don 't have a big enough antenna and most need to be as big as the auto itself.

There are 2 types of active jammers, one continuously transmits, the second only transmits when a signal detected. Many police radars can detect jamming signals even when the radar is not transmitting.

Here's the dealio; The FCC considers the use of traffic radar jammers as malicious interference and strictly prohibited by the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, as well as by FCC rules. Anyone using a jammer risks such penalties as, losing the jammer, paying a fine, or facing criminal prosecution. (FCC DA 96-2040) . https://copradar.com/chapts/gendocs/da962040.pdf.

I know, I used to be one and use them regularly!!:grin:
 

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I own a V1 and have used one for a while, as well as a variety of Belscort products. The V1 has the biggest advantage of proven function and durability...they are reliable as **** (whereas my experience with Belscorts have been the total opposite), they work reasonably well, and the price isn't terrible. The mounting hardware is solid, and they hold up extremely well to even the worst of temperature extremes. The ability to pay to upgrade the hardware is nice...and yet, in 2019, the inability to easily update firmware on one's own isn't. However, the interface (great as it is) is from the 90s, the ability to filter signals without augmentation from one of the links to a smartphone is primitive, it's horn design isn't cutting-edge anymore, it's ability to detect Ka is no longer a pack leader, and it's off-axis detection has now been eclipsed by many other Makers. Finally, Valentine isn't really an innovator in the industry anymore and there is some question regarding what (if anything) is going to come next. If you want and like simple, you will probably like the V1...if you want more, there are some 3rd party Apps that can pair with the unit to offer things such as band segmentation and GPS false signal lockout. But the Uniden R3 performs better, and the R7 is supposed to be an improvement over that.
I can't believe nobody has commented on the bigger issue here...that the stock exhaust on the N was loud enough to draw the attention of a cop AND issue a ticket...whether is stuck or not. It's a factory exhaust. I don't know how it could get a ticket. Anyone else thinking this?
 

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I can't believe nobody has commented on the bigger issue here...that the stock exhaust on the N was loud enough to draw the attention of a cop AND issue a ticket...whether is stuck or not. It's a factory exhaust. I don't know how it could get a ticket. Anyone else thinking this?
California is a joke. I seriously doubt this will happen anywhere else.
Theres much louder stock cars out there so that cop must just be an ass or needed to meet a quota or something.
 
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