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I'll admit that I'm not a huge fan of his reviews, but this video gives a solid look both inside and out of the new VN. I don't think he gives enough credit to what Hyundai has delivered here, but his review came out before pricing was confirmed.
 

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You can see form his chart at the end that he is directly comparing it to that of what he found in the CTR and Golf R. Considering he only gave those models a 6, I think his math works out. At least he realized the value that we are getting here.
 

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Always fun seeing how the doug score compares to the general consensus and I side with him. Heck, even i'm on the fence about owning the Veloster N or the i30N. The Type R comes from a rich history that's hard to ignore and being a Honda, buying used isn't a bad option. At that point, the Type R's value exceeds.
 

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That's why I suggested used because when all is said and done, you're within a $4000-5000 gap between both models. That's only now, waiting for 2019 models to arrives will push 2017 and 2018 models down even further, closer to the Veloster N
 

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If you think there is better value in a used Type R, no one is stopping you. But the majority of us on here on Hyundai fans, who are currently one. I think they've proved naysayers wrong with their latest round of models including the extremely impressive G70.
 
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