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Just wondering if you guys know what the default driving mode is when you start up the N. I am a grandpa so I always change it to Eco, but will it retain the Eco mode between rides? If not, what is the 'standard' mode?
 

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"Normal". You have to change it every time, but that's what the nice big steering wheel buttons are for. :D

FWIW, I actually like that, because I leave the house around 8am every morning and live in a fairly dense-but-suburban area, and if I was to accidentally start it up in "beast mode" I'd wake the neighbors. ;)

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Just wondering if you guys know what the default driving mode is when you start up the N. I am a grandpa so I always change it to Eco, but will it retain the Eco mode between rides? If not, what is the 'standard' mode?
I am genuinely curious what drove you to purchase this particular car and then drive it mostly in Eco? I am not deriding your decision, I am asking out of curiosity. Especially because after personal testing I have found almost no gas mileage savings by driving it in Eco mode.
 

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I was wondering if Eco mode actually actively does something to the tuning to save more on gas. For example: If I were to drive in Eco mode and shift at the 2k RPM it recommends then go back and do the exact same in N mode would the MPG be any different?

Is the only thing Eco mode does is reduce the throttle response? Which I guess makes it easier to shift earlier... Takes away the temptation to go flat out :devil:

Anyone do any testing with this?
 

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I was wondering if Eco mode actually actively does something to the tuning to save more on gas. For example: If I were to drive in Eco mode and shift at the 2k RPM it recommends then go back and do the exact same in N mode would the MPG be any different?

Is the only thing Eco mode does is reduce the throttle response? Which I guess makes it easier to shift earlier... Takes away the temptation to go flat out :devil:

Anyone do any testing with this?
I drove for an entire work week in Eco and in Normal and in N-Custom(everything set high except suspension to save my back from potholes). I got the best Mileage(and always do) in N-Custom. The problem with Eco is the length of time I am actively accelerating rather than coasting, with the reduced throttle response I end up using far more gas to get to speed. I kept a spreadsheet of the differences.

Obviously this is incredibly dependent on personal driving style, and the way I drive, but this is the numbers I got. Just to frustrate y'all in the states this is in L/100KM.

All was done in city, some inner city highways, and using identical routes and times of day. You can see Fridays and Mondays there tends to be more traffic on route.
 

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Very interesting. I feel the same about the accelerating. In eco mode I find myself flooring the **** thing just to get up to speed, while in N-Custom (same as your settings) I accelerate to my desired speed and then, depending on the speed, get to 6th gear and enjoy the MPG. (That's miles per gallon, in case you needed the translation :wink: )
 

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Very interesting. I feel the same about the accelerating. In eco mode I find myself flooring the **** thing just to get up to speed, while in N-Custom (same as your settings) I accelerate to my desired speed and then, depending on the speed, get to 6th gear and enjoy the MPG. (That's miles per gallon, in case you needed the translation :wink: )
Wait now I'm confused? An imperial gallon or a US gallon? How many imperial quartz to a US gallon? What is the conversion to cups per quart? I NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY TEASPOONS OF GASOLINE I AM USING WHEN I TRAVEL 53 KNOTS!!!
 

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I've wondered about eco tuning as well. I agree it just feels like pedal response is reduced (similar to normal but even more so) but the only thing that has me 2nd guessing that is the mention in the manual about operation in eco revolving around steep grades and slower acceleration and possibly lower power?

But mashing the gas in eco with the exhaust fully open still feels like full power to me.
 

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I've wondered about eco tuning as well. I agree it just feels like pedal response is reduced (similar to normal but even more so) but the only thing that has me 2nd guessing that is the mention in the manual about operation in eco revolving around steep grades and slower acceleration and possibly lower power?

But mashing the gas in eco with the exhaust fully open still feels like full power to me.
Mashing the gas in my 1986 Toyota Cressida "feels" like I am going from warp all the way to plaid. That's why spreadsheets were made.
 

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lol i hope you really do have an '86 Cressida that things a classic. Even by butt dyno though there's certainly not enough of a power deficit in eco to make mention of it in the manual.

The only thing that seems to matter is iat's, doesn't matter what mode I'm in really (as far as peak hp/tq, not referring to throttle response and spool time).
 

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N/N Custom is definitely SPG (Smiles per Gallon) or for the Canadian folk SPL (Smiles per Litre)

I like to think of Eco mode as a good snow/rain mode. Other than that I feel like I can control my own gasoline consumption with my right foot :shrug:
 

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I found ECO Mode to be just plain depressing. And I certainly did not notice any better mileage. I tried it out early on but had decided never again. NOTHING happens when you want to accelerate! Fueling, everything seems so retarded. But Spartan.N might be onto something if you need a snow/slippery surface mode.......
 

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I am genuinely curious what drove you to purchase this particular car and then drive it mostly in Eco? I am not deriding your decision, I am asking out of curiosity. Especially because after personal testing I have found almost no gas mileage savings by driving it in Eco mode.
Well, in my defense I have only had the car for 3 days now - So i've not done the full range of testing to see if eco mode matters - it seems to me just more conservative shift guidance and reduced popping in the exhaust.

but to answer your more generalized question: I enjoy spirited driving when im out on road trips or joy riding, but when commuting (which is what i've done mainly with this car) I like it being as efficient as possible. Probably as I own the car longer I will just switch between N and normal mode.

Why I bought the car? It is a looker, its fun to drive, and dat exhaust note :smile_big:
 

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I get better gas mileage in eco but I drive the car like an old man. I have a 30+ mile drive to work and on back roads I get between 32 and 33 mpg in eco mode. Since the car drives like an 86 civic in eco mode I am very light on the throttle. But in N Custom mode I get between 28 and 30 mpg on the same back roads. I DO press the gas a little harder though. :)

I think between all the modes it changes the map in the ecu for economy and performance. Also, in N custom mode if you change the suspension settings without touching the engine settings the ecu still adjusts the power level in correspondence with the suspension. Here try this: keep all the settings in N custom mode at sport + and switch the suspension to normal. Drive for a while, then switch it to the sport mode on the left side of the wheel. I did this yesterday and it was quicker in sport mode and I did it a few times. This is what leads me to believe that the ecu adjusts itself according to the suspension too. I could be wrong but this is what the butt dyno tells me. This is a great car Hyundai made and I will never get rid of it. Such a cool little car!!!! Can't say that enough!

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-Mike
 

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Also, in N custom mode if you change the suspension settings without touching the engine settings the ecu still adjusts the power level in correspondence with the suspension. Here try this: keep all the settings in N custom mode at sport + and switch the suspension to normal. Drive for a while, then switch it to the sport mode on the left side of the wheel. I did this yesterday and it was quicker in sport mode and I did it a few times. This is what leads me to believe that the ecu adjusts itself according to the suspension too. I could be wrong but this is what the butt dyno tells me.
Hmm this is intriguing, I will have to do some testing with this as well. That would be a real bummer though, because for the sake of my back I like to keep the suspension in normal mode unless I'm on a purposeful spirited drive and want the performance over comfort. BUT that doesn't mean that when I am driving to work/around town I don't want the full HP/TQ but with the softer suspension to save my back.

I do notice that the pedal feel definitely changes when I have it in N Custom vs Normal/Eco. What about just Full N mode, if you have N Custom set to full minus suspension and your theory is true you should notice the difference just by going to Full N mode, no?
 

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Yes, you probably would be very accurate with that assumption Spartan. I usually drive mine in N custom mode with the steering set at sport and the suspension at normal. BTW, the car flies in normal sport mode too.

Best regards,

-Mike
 

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TO THE LAB!!! :nerd:

I'll be switching between modes more often now to see if we can get to the bottom of this.

LOl... :grin: This car is everything I imagined and more. Absolutely a hoot to drive!

Best regards,

-Mike
 

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Shoot!! I'm in the 18's and its great!!! Normally 19's MPG
 
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