[MorrisFam05]

This is really encouraging, Destoups!

I did my first Auto X this past weekend with SASCA in San Antonio. The Reynoso family was also present and they crushed "DS" class. I was feeling pretty depressed about whether or not the Veloster N was truly competitive, then I found your link to the Texas National results. Wahoo! VN taking top two fastest times was really quite a boost.

I noticed that four-cylinder Camaros are also in DS. That seems like a huge horsepower disparity, but I guess we will see how it plays out as the season progresses. I feel lucky to be in the Novice class for now, since my times are 6 seconds behind the Fabulous Reynoso Family. And they share a car!? Amazing.

Thanks again to all for the pointers on tire choice, inflation, and other setup suggestions. It would have taken me years to figure out those variables.

See ya at the Track!
Mike

 

[Leveq]

4cyl Camaros have the same power but more weight.

 

[destoups]

Have not weighed the VN but assuming it is right at 3,000. My turbo Camaro -- light exhaust and wheels, no gas -- was 3,150 or so on SCCA scales. Compared with VN, it had 8.5 wheels and much longer gearing (62-65 mph in second depending on tires), so big courses tend to favor it. But it's not half the fun.

@MorrisFam05 welcome aboard. If you're a novice seat time alone will cut that deficit really fast.

 

[MorrisFam05]

You are kind to say so, Des!

Where can I access some of the Texas Auto X results for 2020 that you copied and pasted above? I would love to follow the local scene and come watch the Solo action.

Thank you!
Mike

 

[RedVN]

Curb weight is 3036.

 

[destoups]

You are kind to say so, Des!

Where can I access some of the Texas Auto X results for 2020 that you copied and pasted above? I would love to follow the local scene and come watch the Solo action.

Thank you!
Mike

Results will come from the website of the local club sponsoring the event. What I posted was the the national events -- there are a few dozen around the country every year.

 

[Udontknowjack]

 

[Crispy]

New N owner. Been driving autocross for three years. GS and then STH. Want to stay in DS for now.

I've read this entire thread. Lots of good info, but still have questions.

Is the consensus that I do or do not need a larger rear sway bar? If so, which one?

I've got 18x8 racing wheels and Falken RT615K+ already. Anything else?

 

[destoups]

A lot might depend on your surface locally. I never thought my Type R needed a bar until I drove it on grippy concrete. So far VN hasn't needed one but not driven on concrete.

 

[Crispy]

We drive on the same concrete that they parked B-58 Hustlers on in the fifties.

LOL. It's probably not the original concrete but it is old. So gritty, pebbles, dusty concrete.

 

[redfordb]

Hi everyone, noob here. I think I've read this whole thread, so hopefully this is not a repeat. Just did my first autox ever in CO. It was a test and tune format due to low numbers (very cold weather), but it was incredible. Basically drove stock VNPP with some Michelin PS4Ss. For my next autox this weekend I'll likely continue on these tires but max out front camber--as I understand it about -1deg.

For my proper setup I will be nabbing some TS-10s and Falken RT660s. I'm a little torn between 235/40R18 and 245/40R18. Normally I'd think 245 but the RT660 is inherently a wide tire. The 235 has a larger tread width than the 245 RE-71R, for example. I'm a little worried about pinch/bulge on the 245 losing responsiveness (haven't been able to find pics). Other considerations is that the 235 is lighter than 245 by 2 lbs each, is closer to the stock outer diameter (maybe negligible either way), and generally closer to the OEM design that underwent considerable track tuning (also maybe negligible, but damn they really set this thing up out of the box).

Any thoughts? Anyone have the 245 Falkens on their 8 inch wide TS10s????

 

[destoups]

Exceeding stock height by much is likely to cause rubbing on fender liners. Several of us have run 265s with no issues, but it's a 35 series. Good luck out there!

 

[Leveq]

I guess you want to run an 8" because of Street class ? 245-255s I'd run 9s, but well, if its for classes then rip. Just run the cheaper size, you wont really be competitive running Falkens anyway.

 

[Crispy]

I guess you want to run an 8" because of Street class ? 245-255s I'd run 9s, but well, if its for classes then rip. Just run the cheaper size, you wont really be competitive running Falkens anyway.

GrassRootsMotorsports tested the new RT660 against the RE71R on track and for autocross. The Falkens were within a tenth or two. Wore similar to the Bridgestones on track too. That is to say they burn up fast.

Do you have other data?

 

[Leveq]

GrassRootsMotorsports tested the new RT660 against the RE71R on track and for autocross. The Falkrns were within a tenth or two. Wore similar to the Bridgestone on track too.

Do you have other data?

The fact that nobody runs them. Yoko A052s are the tyres to have these days, tho RE71s and Rival S 1.5s are still in.

 

[Crispy]

Well that's good anecdotal evidence. That was true here in Indy region two years ago when I showed up with my RT615K+. But this is the first non-covid season with the RT660's available, so hopefully they gain some traction.

They certainly are a budget friendly option for those of us that are not awash in cash.

I will say that over on the Autocross Reddit they seem to be pretty popular.

 

[Leveq]

Well that's good anecdotal evidence. That was true here in Indy region two years ago when I showed up with my RT615K+. But this is the first non-covid season with the RT660's available, so hopefully they gain some traction.

They certainly are a budget friendly option for those of us that are not awash in cash.

I will say that over on the Autocross Reddit they seem to be pretty popular.

I mean we'll see, same for the new Nankang CR-1.

 

[Piro Fyre]

I think the popularity of the RT660 is due to the popularity of the 71Rs and it's price. People have said "If you liked the 71Rs, you'll like the RT660s" since those that have tried it said they feel similar and run similar pressures. I've also heard the RT660s can take in more heat before they end up getting greasy than the 71Rs so that's a plus. On top of all that, they are AFFORDABLE and COMPETITIVE!

 

[AkursedX]

So I'm picking up my DCT Veloster N this weekend. I plan on getting an alignment asap. I know the DCT version can apparently pull more front camber, but what's the consensus on toe? From what I know about fwd setup, I'm guessing a bit of toe out in the front with zero in the rear?

I'm probably going to pick up a set of 18x8's, pinch a set 265/35-r18 Falkens on them along with a white line rear bar and send it.

I'm sure it's going to be quite a learning experience coming over from an STX-prepped RX-8. I plan on running both cars throughout the season.

 

[Patty Ice]

I'm not sure about toe, but I'm really curious if you were able to get the 265 Falkens to work. As some people have said, they are do run wider so I was wondering if they fit alright. My Nexen tires are getting old and was thinking of getting some 255 Falkens myself.