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"A Seriously Fast Little Blue Dot" - Veloster N at C&D's Lightning Lap 2019

When Hyundai plucked BMW M boss Albert Biermann away from the Bavarians to head its new N performance brand, we suspected things were about to get serious in Namyang. But not this serious and not this fast.
The N with PP ran a 3:07.7 at VIR in Car and Driver's 2019 Lightning Lap, making it the second-fastest FWD car ever tested (with the brilliant Civic Type R being first at 3:03.9).
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a29389240/2019-hyundai-veloster-n-lightning-lap/


Looking at all of the LL times from the beginning, the N is placed as number 161. Here's the full comparison of times:
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a23319884/lightning-lap-times-historical-data/

Pretty cool :smile:
 

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Great video! That guy can drive!!! I just wish he kept it in a lower gear at certain points. I bet he could have shaved off at least 2 to 3 seconds, maybe more...

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Great video! That guy can drive!!! I just wish he kept it in a lower gear at certain points. I bet he could have shaved off at least 2 to 3 seconds, maybe more...

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Look at the magazine in the local newsstand. Count the number of Honda/Acura ads vs the Hyundai/Kia ads.


I'm sure there's a reason the "winner" wins.


Nothing against the Civic R. It's an amazing car textbook wise. I'm sure it's fun to drive, and can corner and bring grins as well as anything else available. I just think that it's ugly as sin, and I think the Veloster is pretty **** good looking. My tastes are occasionally weird though, but it is what it is. I just think the Veloster is 99% of the Civic at 3/4 the price. And you won't have the oil dilution issues of the current Honda lineup either.
 

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Look at the magazine in the local newsstand. Count the number of Honda/Acura ads vs the Hyundai/Kia ads.


I'm sure there's a reason the "winner" wins.


Nothing against the Civic R. It's an amazing car textbook wise. I'm sure it's fun to drive, and can corner and bring grins as well as anything else available. I just think that it's ugly as sin, and I think the Veloster is pretty **** good looking. My tastes are occasionally weird though, but it is what it is. I just think the Veloster is 99% of the Civic at 3/4 the price. And you won't have the oil dilution issues of the current Honda lineup either.
I would absolutely agree with this except I don't think it's a bad looking car just very over rated in my opinion. The VN can out corner a Type R in N mode but the Type R catches it in the straights. I'd much rather have the VN than the Type R, plus I get to keep almost 10K in my pocket. With just a tune the VN is at or just surpasses the Type R and I still saved 9500 bucks. LOL!...

Br,

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#161 overall, but #3 in its class (under $35k). That’s pretty good for a car tuned for enjoyment, not lap times.
 

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I would absolutely agree with this except I don't think it's a bad looking car just very over rated in my opinion. The VN can out corner a Type R in N mode but the Type R catches it in the straights. I'd much rather have the VN than the Type R, plus I get to keep almost 10K in my pocket. With just a tune the VN is at or just surpasses the Type R and I still saved 9500 bucks. LOL!...

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See, I'm not worried about it outrunning me in the straights, who can go around a track fastest, etc. I just want it to be fun to drive. I got my "gotta be the fastest car" stage out of me when I was 18 (with a 1974 Trans Am 455 that was way faster than an 18 year old needed). I love fast cars, but there's always someone faster, someone with better cornering, etc. I'm not racing anyone, I'm driving it on the street and having a good time.

I am not even at this stage worried about a tune. I'd rather do some basics like a better intercooler and an air snorkel to feed the airbox to keep IAT's down and prevent heat soak in the intake. Colder air = more power and the engine computer can accommodate that and build more power than stock.

I want it to be fun, but maybe not quite as fun as my Thunderbird. :D
 

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See, I'm not worried about it outrunning me in the straights, who can go around a track fastest, etc. I just want it to be fun to drive. I got my "gotta be the fastest car" stage out of me when I was 18 (with a 1974 Trans Am 455 that was way faster than an 18 year old needed). I love fast cars, but there's always someone faster, someone with better cornering, etc. I'm not racing anyone, I'm driving it on the street and having a good time.

I am not even at this stage worried about a tune. I'd rather do some basics like a better intercooler and an air snorkel to feed the airbox to keep IAT's down and prevent heat soak in the intake. Colder air = more power and the engine computer can accommodate that and build more power than stock.

I want it to be fun, but maybe not quite as fun as my Thunderbird. :D
I'm not tuning either. It is fast enough for me too. I have always modified most of my cars to some extent. You are doing the same thing with your engine I am doing with mine. I may add the spacers too to further battle heat soak. I had a Trans Am too but it was a 1983 I restored. The 1974 is way better!!! lol... I sold it about 2 years ago. I wish I didn't but I wouldn't have the VN if I didn't sell it. I'll see if I can find a pic.

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I'm not tuning either. It is fast enough for me too. I have always modified most of my cars to some extent. You are doing the same thing with your engine I am doing with mine. I may add the spacers too to further battle heat soak. I had a Trans Am too but it was a 1983 I restored. The 1974 is way better!!! lol... I sold it about 2 years ago. I wish I didn't but I wouldn't have the VN if I didn't sell it. I'll see if I can find a pic.

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Love the snowflakes!

I wish I had pics of mine. I sold it before digital cameras were really a thing, and I moved enough times where the one or two pics I had of it got lost.

Wasn't very picture worthy though. I bought it in Tomball, TX (north of Houston) where it was sitting in front of a gas station. My friend and I were driving to school one morning and I saw it in the corner of my eye. Channeling the movie Christine, we stopped to look, I made arrangements to come back for a test drive and loved it. I had been driving a 1985.5 Ford Escort at the time, and this Trans Am was SO much more powerful.

Found out the guy was selling it because his father passed away, and his father was modifying it to be a dragster. Thus, it was primer black, most of the interior was gutted, had a modified 455 with Hooker fenderwell headers feeding 4" sidepipes (with integral 2.5" muffler, more on that later). When I bought it (for $1000 in 1993) I found a high rise, dual quad intake in the trunk with matching Holley Dominators already on it. That quickly found it's way onto the car and it took me forever to sync them. I never dynoed it, but on 275/60/15 Comp T/A's it'd run 11.5" in the 1/4 as timed by the guys on the backroad races with stop watches. So let's call it realistically a 12 second car. Needless to say, I won every dollar of money I put in the tank racing it, and it got 4mpg on a good day.

I named it the Pirate ship, because the only way to realistically afford gas was to hijack fuel tanker trucks as in Mad Max. My friends tried to call it the Millennium Falcon (the fastest hunk of junk in the galaxy, because it looked like junk) but I didn't want to do that. :D

I still don't know what cam it had, but on idle it sounded like the drum intro to Van Halen's Hot for Teacher. Once it got to 2K however, it just roared and anyone who knew anything about cars would leave it alone.
 

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Love the snowflakes!

I wish I had pics of mine. I sold it before digital cameras were really a thing, and I moved enough times where the one or two pics I had of it got lost.

Wasn't very picture worthy though. I bought it in Tomball, TX (north of Houston) where it was sitting in front of a gas station. My friend and I were driving to school one morning and I saw it in the corner of my eye. Channeling the movie Christine, we stopped to look, I made arrangements to come back for a test drive and loved it. I had been driving a 1985.5 Ford Escort at the time, and this Trans Am was SO much more powerful.

Found out the guy was selling it because his father passed away, and his father was modifying it to be a dragster. Thus, it was primer black, most of the interior was gutted, had a modified 455 with Hooker fenderwell headers feeding 4" sidepipes (with integral 2.5" muffler, more on that later). When I bought it (for $1000 in 1993) I found a high rise, dual quad intake in the trunk with matching Holley Dominators already on it. That quickly found it's way onto the car and it took me forever to sync them. I never dynoed it, but on 275/60/15 Comp T/A's it'd run 11.5" in the 1/4 as timed by the guys on the backroad races with stop watches. So let's call it realistically a 12 second car. Needless to say, I won every dollar of money I put in the tank racing it, and it got 4mpg on a good day.

I named it the Pirate ship, because the only way to realistically afford gas was to hijack fuel tanker trucks as in Mad Max. My friends tried to call it the Millennium Falcon (the fastest hunk of junk in the galaxy, because it looked like junk) but I didn't want to do that. :D

I still don't know what cam it had, but on idle it sounded like the drum intro to Van Halen's Hot for Teacher. Once it got to 2K however, it just roared and anyone who knew anything about cars would leave it alone.
Ya, I thought the snowflakes would make it look good. So many of my friends didn't want me to do it until they saw it in person.... I took out the old tired 305 and put in a 350ci, 4 bolt main sbc from Summit racing. It made about 260 engine hp and about 350 ft lbs of engine torque. It was plenty for that car and I still go 20mpg using the factory computer. I also re-upholstered the interior too, re-did the braking system, re-did the rear end, and put in all tubular bars underneath. The VN still would blow it away, hands down! And the VN will out handle it as well. But I just loved the way it looked. It was my favorite car in HS. I was 13 when my 1983 Trans Am was built. Just reminiscing about Roberta makes me sad. lol... Everyone called her the "Red Bird" so I named her Roberta. Roberta the "Red Bird!" lol

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Ya, I thought the snowflakes would make it look good. So many of my friends didn't want me to do it until they saw it in person.... I took out the old tired 305 and put in a 350ci, 4 bolt main sbc from Summit racing. It made about 260 engine hp and about 350 ft lbs of engine torque. It was plenty for that car and I still go 20mpg using the factory computer. I also re-upholstered the interior too, re-did the braking system, re-did the rear end, and put in all tubular bars underneath. The VN still would blow it away, hands down! And the VN will out handle it as well. But I just loved the way it looked. It was my favorite car in HS. I was 13 when my 1983 Trans Am was built. Just reminiscing about Roberta makes me sad. lol... Everyone called her the "Red Bird" so I named her Roberta. Roberta the "Red Bird!" lol

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My 74 was the same age as me. :D
 

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Look at the magazine in the local newsstand. Count the number of Honda/Acura ads vs the Hyundai/Kia ads.


I'm sure there's a reason the "winner" wins.


Nothing against the Civic R. It's an amazing car textbook wise. I'm sure it's fun to drive, and can corner and bring grins as well as anything else available. I just think that it's ugly as sin, and I think the Veloster is pretty **** good looking. My tastes are occasionally weird though, but it is what it is. I just think the Veloster is 99% of the Civic at 3/4 the price. And you won't have the oil dilution issues of the current Honda lineup either.
I would absolutely agree with this except I don't think it's a bad looking car just very over rated in my opinion. The VN can out corner a Type R in N mode but the Type R catches it in the straights. I'd much rather have the VN than the Type R, plus I get to keep almost 10K in my pocket. With just a tune the VN is at or just surpasses the Type R and I still saved 9500 bucks. LOL!...

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-Mike

Folks along those lines, and I have not driven a Type R, but if that car has anywhere near the rev hang that the SI has, then I would want no part of it!!
 

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So, you were either born in 74 or you are 74. lol.....

He, he, he....

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