Alright Turbo, I am sorry I got my feathers ruffled Shouldnt make blanket judgements. But you werent in a spanking new N car in traffic leaving a light in 1st gear at 6k rpm.. so maybe you could let me rant a little? And oh by the way, I whined that the DCT is bad BUT the car is as much fun as the Lotus and it is a BAD little piece.. Bierman or whoever that BMW engineer that Hyundai stole is a freakin genius.. I can't wait to get this V onto VIR. To quote the great driver Paul Newman "If there is a heaven on earth, it is VIR." Second the motion Paul. The climbing Esses are amazing..all u can do is repeat Turn, pause, turn, pause, turn, don't pinch 10.. and pucker Baby... Laguna Seca's DOWNHILL corkscrew must be terrifying. At least with the climbing Esses, you got gravity on your side... again Turbo I an sorry..ok? Truly.